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Eyeing a credit-friendlier world, Marks preps for bargain hunting

With higher (for longer) interest rates prompting a "sea change" that's transforming markets into a lender's game, the legendary credit investor says it's a good time for bargain hunters to benefit from selloffs as dislocations emerge in otherwise "reasonable" markets.
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With markets in a “zone of reasonableness”, investors should adhere to their normal risk posture and, above all, avoid mistakes, according to legendary credit investor Howard Marks. But with an economic “sea change” set to prompt dislocation and rejuvenate fixed-income opportunities, this could be credit’s moment – and a bargain hunter’s dream.

Marks – who co-founded Oaktree Capital Management, the world’s largest distressed debt investment manager, and is famous for his memos to investors – has been pointing out what he sees as a moment of seismic change in markets, with a complete reversal of economic conditions that have prevailed for much of the last 40 years.

That period was defined by declining and low interest rates, sparking greater competition amongst lenders and a scramble for yield, with investors moving into riskier securities as returns became harder to find. And many in the investment world today have never experienced anything else, Marks noted, although that’s about to change.

  • “I believe that declining and super low interest rates are not the norm, and they are not what people should expect in the next decade,” he said on a recent investor call. He noted that interest rates fell a whopping 20 percentage points from 1980 to 2021, including hitting zero for the first time in 2009 and staying there for seven years.

    “That was an unusual period in which the Fed kept rates incredibly low, initially to solve the problem of the global financial crisis, and then, in my opinion inexplicably, they left them there too long,” Marks said. “A zero federal funds rate is an emergency measure; I don’t think we’ve had an emergency for seven years.”

    Good companies, bad balance sheets

    This environment has been exceptionally challenging for lenders and for credit, Marks said, with low interest rates increasing the value of assets and decreasing the cost of capital.

    “Of course, if assets appreciate and the cost of buying them declines, then people who buy assets using borrowed money do especially well. That’s what’s happened in the last 40 years taken together.”

    It’s no coincidence, he added, that highly leveraged investment strategies like private equity began to take off around 1980. But while “we shouldn’t be surprised that the use of leverage was successful”, he said, it would be unwise to bet on its continued success in a future marked by higher interest rates.

    “Albert Einstein said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results,” he said.

    “I believe it’s another form of insanity to do the same thing in different environments and expect the same result. Leveraged asset ownership in a period of rising asset prices and declining capital costs is an obvious winner, but doing so in a period of steady valuations and interest rates is not so obvious a winner. I believe that people have to look for winners in different strategies than the ones that succeeded before.”

    Marks says the changing conditions will create opportunity, with dislocations already emerging in some sectors, particularly enterprise software, health care and commercial real estate. This creates ideal conditions for credit investors to earn equity-like returns with lower risk, and for bargain hunters to benefit from selloffs.

    What he is looking for is good companies with bad balance sheets.

    Key to Oaktree’s approach is so-called second-level thinking, or variant perception – “trying to see things in a more sophisticated, more nuanced, more insightful way than the average person”, Marks said.

    “The essence of investing consists of buying things for less than they’re worth,” he said. “The average investor makes mistakes from time to time. Our goal is to take advantage of those mistakes.”

    And while the dislocations, and opportunities, arising in such reasonable markets will likely be temporary, “in that temporary moment that usually lasts some months, if not years – that’s when we get our opportunities”, Marks said.

    “We don’t try to predict how long they’re going to last. But we are determined to take advantage of them today, if they exist today, as we believe they do.”

    *A version of this article was first published in The Inside Investor.

    Lisa Uhlman

    Lisa is editor of The Inside Investor and has extensive experience covering legal and financial services news.




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